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Episode 6: The Sedins, Andreychuk, Lalonde

06-07-2018

Sedins
Seasons: 2000-18; 17 seasons
Daniel: 393G (4th Swede All Time), 648A for 1041P (5th Swede), +147 in 1306 games (4th Swede); 123.1 Point Shares (4th Swede); 17:00 ATOI
If the qualifier is set to 1,000 games played, Daniel is the 4th Swede All Time in GPG and PPG
Daniel is the 4th Swede All Time in Offensive Point Shares
Henrik: 240G, 830A (2nd Swede All Time) for 1070P (4th Swede), +165 in 1330 games (3rd Swede); 108.6 Point Shares; 17:30 ATOI
If the qualifier is set to 1,000 games played, Henrik is the Swedish leader in APG and he is the 5th Swede in PPG
In their draft class (1999),
Daniel, drafted 2nd overall, is 1st in Goals, 2nd in Assists and Points and 3rd in Plus/Minus, as well as second in Games Played
Henrik, drafted 3rd overall, is 5th in Goals, 1st in Assists, Points and Plus Minus, and Games Played
Era: Of the 5 players to play in at least 1,250 games between 2000 and 2018,
Daniel is 2nd in Goals, GPG, PPG and Offensive Point Shares, 3rd in Assists, APG, Points and Point Shares, 4th in Plus/Minus
Henrik is 4th in Goals, GPG and Offensive Point Shares, 2nd in Assists, APG and Points, 3rd in PPG and Plus/Minus, 5th (last) in Point Shares
82-game average:
Daniel: 25G, 41A for 66P, +9
Henrik: 15G, 51A for 66P, +10
3-year peak (2008-11):
Daniel: 82-game average of 37G, 62A for 99P, +33
Henrik: 82-game average of 23G, 72A for 96P, +28
Possession:
Daniel: 55% CF, 7.2% CFRel, 54.1% FF, 6.5% FFRel
Henrik: 54% CF, 6.6% CFRel, 53.6% FF, 5.7% FFRel
Of the 80 players who have played in at least 750 games since possession was tracked, Daniel is 6th in Corsi For, 1st in Relative Corsi For and Fenwick For, 9th in Fenwick For, Henrik is 9th in Corsi For, 2nd in Relative Corsi For and Fenwick For, 12th in Fenwick For
Adjusted:
Daniel: 442G (3rd Swede All Time), 712A for 1154P (5th Swede)
Henrik: 272G, 909A (17th All Time, 2nd Swede) for 1181P (4th Swede)
Adjusted 82-game average:
Daniel: 28G, 45A for 72P
Henrik: 17G, 56A for 73P
Andreychuk
NHL: 1982-2006; 23 years, 17 quality
640G (13th all-time, 11th at his retirement), 698A for 1338P (23rd all-time at his retirement), +38 in 1639 games (5th all-time, 4th at his retirement); 124.6 Point Shares; 15:58 ATOI (since 1997-98)
Andreychuck has scored 274 PP goals which is most All Time
In his draft class (1982), Andreychuk is 1st in Goals, 4th in Assists, 2nd in Points and 15th in Plus/Minus despite being drafted 16th overall
Era: Of the 4 players to play in at least 1500 games between 1982 and 2004, Andreychuk is 1st in Goals and GPG
4th in Assists, APG and Point Shares
3rd in Points, PPG, Plus/Minus and Offensive Point Shares
82-game average season of 32G, 35A for 67P
3 year peak (1991-’94): 82-game average of 49G, 47A for 96P
Playoffs: 43G, 54A for 97P, -1 in 162 games
Adjusted: 605G (19th All Time), 645A for 1250P
Adjusted 82-game average: 30G, 32A for 63P
Newsy:
NHL: 1917-1922; 6 seasons, 5 quality (Plus a 1 game comeback in the 1926-27 season)
125G (3rd All Time at his transfer out of the NHL in 1922), 41A (4th All Time, career leader in 1919) for 166P (3rd) in 99 games; 22.3 PS (3rd)
At his transfer out of the NHL, Lalonde was 2nd in GPG and PPG and 3rd in APG
If the qualifier is set to a single modern season, Lalonde is 1st All Time in GPG, and 3rd in PPG
At his transfer out of the NHL, Lalonde was 2nd All Time in Offensive Point Shares
82-game average: 103G, 34A for 138P
3-year peak (1917-20): 24 game average of 37G, 12A for 49P
Playoffs:
15G, 4A for 19P in 7 games
Lalonde was the career leader in playoff goals until 1927
Lalonde was the career leader in playoff points until 1932
1st All Time in Adjusted Points Per Game if the qualifier is lowered to the 99 games he played, which is absurd

Categories | Eligible Inducted Old Timer

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