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Episode 7: Tkachuk, Lindros and Harry Cameron

17-07-2018

Tkachuk:
NHL: 1991-2010; 18 seasons, 16 quality
538G (2nd American All Time - not including that traitor, Brett Hull), 527A for 1065P (4th American, excluding Hull), +33 in 1201 games; 18:23 ATOI (since 1998-99); 125.1 PS
Tkachuk is 2nd All Time among American NHLers in GPG and 4th in PPG, if we omit Hull and set a minimum qualifier of 1,000 games played (42 players)
In his draft class (1990), Tkachuk, drafted 19th overall, is
2nd in Goals and Points
4th in Assists
15th in Plus/Minus
5th in Games Played
Era: Of the 14 players to play in at least 1200 games between 1991 and 2010, Tkachuk is
3rd in Goals
2nd in GPG
10th in Assists and APG
6th in Points
5th in PPG
8th in Plus/Minus
4th in Offensive Point Shares
7th in Point Shares
82-game average: 37G, 36A for 73P, +2
3-year peak (1994-97): 82-game average of 48G, 45A for 93P, +2
Possession (since 2007): 50.2 Corsi For %, 0.7 Relative Corsi For, 50.5 Fenwick For %, 0.4 Relative Fenwick For %
Playoffs: 28G, 28A for 56P, -15 in 89 games
Adjusted: 584G (25th All Time), 566A for 1150P
Adjusted 82-game average: 40G, 39A for 79P
Adjusted PPG: If the qualifier is set to 1,000 games played, Tkachuk is not in the Top 25 in Adjusted PPG.
Traded once in his prime and twice thereafter.
Lindros:
NHL: 1992-2000, 2001-2007; 13 seasons, 11 quality
372G, 493A for 865P, +215 in 760 games; 101.6 PS; 19:47 ATOI (since 1998-99)
Lindros is 17th All Time in PPG
In his draft class (1991), Lindros, drafted 1st overall, is 25th in Games but 4th in Goals, 5th in Assists and Points and 2nd in Plus Minus
Era:
Of the hundreds of players to play in at least 450 games between 1992 and 2000, Lindros is 8th in Goals, 2nd in GPG and PPG, 17th in Assists, 6th in APG and Points, 3rd in OPS, 4th in PS, and 183rd in Games
Among the hundreds of players to play in at least 250 games between 2001 and 2007, Lindros is not in the Top 25 for any category
82-game average: 40G, 53A for 93P, +23
3-year peak (1994-97): 82-game average of 52G, 74A for 126P, +40
Playoffs: 24G, 33A for 57P in 53 games; 19:14 ATOI (since 1998-99)
Adjusted: 404G, 538A for 942P
Adjusted 82-game average: 44G, 58A for 102P
If the qualifier is set to 750 games, Lindros is 6th All Time in Adjusted PPG
Traded once in his prime and infamously demanded a trade before he ever played a game.
Cameron:
NHL: 1917-1923; 6 seasons, all quality
88G (8th All Time at his release), 51A (3rd) for 139P (6th) in 128 games (5th); 28.6 PS (1st)
When he left the NHL, Cameron was 10th in GPG, 5th in APG and 9th in PPG
When he left the NHL, Cameron was 6th All Time in Offensive Point Shares and 5th in Defensive Point Shares
82-game average: 57G, 33A for 89P
3-year peak (1919-22): 24-game average of 17G, 10A for 28P
Playoffs: 5G, 4A for 9P in 11 games
Adjusted: 117G, 231A for 348P
Adjusted 82-game average: 75G, 148A for 223P
2nd All Time in Adjusted Points Per Game if the qualifier is set at an absurd 82 games
Traded twice and loaned once in his prime, and waived once.
NHA:
1912-17; 6 seasons, 5 quality
53G (as high as 16th All Time), 20A (as high as 11th) for 73P (as high as 15th) in 100 games (maybe 10th)
When the NHA became the NHL, Cameron might have been 10th All Time in GPG, 5th in APG and 11th in PPG (minimum 82 games played)
24-game average: 13G, 5A for 18P
Traded once.
WCHL (as a forward):
1923-26; 9 game comeback in 1932-33; 3 seasons, 2 quality (not including comeback)
32G (as high as 19th All Time, but unlikely), 20A (as high as 13th All Time), 52P (as high as 16th) in 96 games
Cameron may be as high as 13th All Time in GPG, 10th in APG and 14th in PPG
30-game average:10G, 6A for 16P
Never traded.

Categories | Eligible Inducted Old Timer

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