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Episode 14: Datsyuk, Lidstrom, Frank Foyston

24-09-2018

Datsyuk:
NHL: 2001-2016; 14 seasons, all quality
314G, 604A (3rd Russian All Time) for 918P, +249 in 953 games; 18:52 ATOI; 111.2 PS
Datsyuk is 2nd All Time in APG among Russian NHL players
Draft: In his draft class (1998), Datsyuk, taken 171st overall, is
2nd in Goals and Assists
3rd in Points
1st in Plus/Minus
Era: Of the 145 players to play in at least 750 games between 2001 and 2016, Datsyuk is
17th in Goals
25th in GPG
3rd in Assists
4th in APG
7th in Points, Offensive Point Shares and Point Shares
6th in PPG
2nd in Plus/Minus
82-game average: 27G, 52A for 79P, +21
3-year peak (2006-09): 82-game average of 31G, 65A for 95P, +38
Possession (since 2007-08):
59% Corsi For (1st, minimum 500 games)
5.9% Relative Corsi For (4th, min 500 games)
58.2% Fenwick For (1st, min 500 games)
5.6% Relative Fenwick For (4th, min 500 games)
Playoffs: 42G, 71A for 113P, +34 in 157 games
Adjusted: 356G, 670A for 1026P
Adjusted 82-game average: 31G, 58A for 88P
Datsyuk is 23rd All Time in Adjusted APG
Contract traded after his retirement with a pick for a minor leaguer and pick.
Lidstrom:
NHL: 1991-2012; 20 seasons, all quality
264G (8th Defenceman All Time), 878A (22nd All Time, 6th D, 1st Swede) for 1142P (6th D, 3rd Swede), +450 (8th All Time, 6th D, 1st Swede) in 1564 games (12th All Time, 5th D, 1st Swede); 26:54 ATOI (since 1998-99); 211.8 PS (6th All Time, 2nd D, 1st Swede)
Lidstrom is 3rd All Time in Defensive Point Shares behind only Bourque and Stevens (1st Swede, obviously)
Lidstrom is 4th All Time among defenseman in Offensive Point Shares (he has the 3rd most OPS among Swedish players)
Among defencemen, Lidstrom is 18th All Time in GPG, 16th in APG and 17th in PPG
In his draft year (1989), Lidstrom, is
6th in Goals
1st in Assists, Plus/Minus and Games Played
3rd in Points
Despite being drafted 53rd overall
Era: Lidstrom is the only player to play in at least 1500 games between 1991 and 2012 so, of the 13 players to play in at least 1250 games between 1991 and 2012, Lidstrom is
10th in Goals and GPG
2nd in Assists
4th in APG
6th in Points and OPS
8th in PPG
1st in Plus/Minus, DPS and PS
82-game average: 14G, 46A for 60P, +24; 11.1 PS
3-year peak (2005-08): 82-game average of 13G, 60A for 74P, +35; 27:27 ATOI; 14 PS
Possession (since 2007-08):
56.1% Corsi For (9th, min 250 games between 2007-08 and 2011-12)
1% Relative Corsi For
56.1% Fenwick For (10th, same qualifier)
0.9% Relative Fenwick For
Playoffs: 54G, 129A (5th All Time) for 183P (12th), +61 (8th) in 263 games (2nd)
Adjusted: 286G, 918A (16th All Time) for 1204P
Adjusted 82-game average: 15G, 48A for 63P
Adjusted PPG:
Lidstrom is not in the Top 25 for All Time Adjusted PPG if the qualifier is set to 1250 games
Never traded.
Foyston:
NHL: 1926-28; 2 seasons, none quality (by modern PPG standards)
17G, 7A for 24P in 64 games
Era: Of the 6 players 35 years of age and older to play in at least 50 games between 1926 and 1928, Foyston is
2nd in Goals and Points
1st in GPG, APG, PPG and Offensive Point Shares
4th in Assists
5th (2nd last) in Point Shares
No NHL Playoff games
Adjusted: 31G, 44A for 75 points
Bought into the NHL when the WHL folded, sent to the minors to end his major pro career.

Categories | Eligible Inducted Old Timer

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