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Episode 16: Damphousse, Modano, Dick Irvin

22-10-2018

Damphousse:
NHL: 1986-2004; 18 seasons, all quality
432G, 773A for 1205P, +7 in 1378 games; 19:28 ATOI (since 1998-99); 105.4 PS
Draft: In his draft year (1986), Damphousse, drafted 6th overall, is
1st in Goals and Points
2nd in Assists
12th in Plus/Minus
Era: Of the 11 players (all but two are Hall of Famers) to play in at least 1250 games between 1986 and 2004, Damphousse is
6th in Goals, GPG and Points
4th in Assists and APG
7th in PPG and Offensive Point Shares
9th (3rd last) in Point Shares
10th (2nd last) in Plus/Minus
82-game average: 25G, 46A for 71P, 0
3 year peak (1991-94): 82-game average of 39G, 53A for 91P, +5
No possession stats available
Playoffs: 41G, 63A for 104P, -6 in 140 games
Traded twice in his prime and once after:
Part of a 6-player deal for veterans (Anderson, Fuhr and Berube for Damphousse plus Ing and Scott Thornton)
Traded for lesser players (Corson, Gilchrist and Vujtek for Damphousse and a late round pick)
Trade deadline deal for picks.
Modano:
NHL: 1989-2011; 21 seasons, 20 quality
561G (25th All Time, 1st American not including Hull), 813A (2nd American) for 1374P (24th All Time, 1st American other than Hull), +114P in 1499 games (19th All Time, 2nd American); 19:47 ATOI (since 1998-99); 144.9 PS (4th American excluding Hull)
Modano is 1st All Time in Offensive Point Shares among American-born players
Draft: In Modano’s draft class (1988), Modano, the first American drafted 1st overall, is
3rd in Goals, Points and Plus/Minus
2nd in Assists and Games
Era: Of the 24 players to play in at least 1250 games between 1989 and 2011, Modano is
7th in Goals, GPG, APG and Offensive Point Shares
5th in Assists
4th in Points
6th in PPG and Point Shares
8th in Plus/Minus
82-game average: 30G, 44A for 75P, +6
3-year peak (1991-94): 82-game average of 41G, 51A for 92P, -8
Possession (since 2007-08):
51% Corsi For
-2.1% Relative Corsi For
50.8% Fenwick For
-2% Fenwick Corsi For
Playoffs: 58G, 88A for 146P, 0
Adjusted: 578G, 830A for 1408P (19th All Time)
Adjusted 82-game average: 32G, 45A for 77P
Never traded.
Dick Irvin Sr.:
NHL: 1926-29, 3 seasons, 2 quality
29G, 23A for 52P in 95 games
Era: Of the 28 players aged 30 or older to play in at least 82 games between 1926 and 1929, Irvin is
5th in Goals, Points and Offensive Point Shares
6th in PPG
2nd in Assists and APG
4th in PPG
12th in Point Shares
82-game average: 25G, 20A for 45P
No possession stats
Playoffs: 2G for 2P in 2 games
Adjusted: 56G, 147A for 203P
Adjusted 82-game average: 48G, 127A for 175P yuk yuk yuk
Doesn’t qualify for adjusted leaderboards
Transfered into the NHL when the WCHL folded, but otherwise never traded.
PCHA:
1916-17, 1 quality season
35G, 10A for 45P in 23 games
If the qualifier is set to an absurd 20 games (less than a single season), Irvin is
1st All Time in GPG
5th in APG
2nd in PPG
No playoff games played
Drafted out of the PCHA and so became an amateur hockey player again.
WCHL:
1921-26; 5 seasons, all quality
58G (as high as 8th All Time), 24A (as high as 10th) for 82P (as high as 9th) in 102 games (as high as 14th)
If the qualifier is set to 82 games played, Irvin is possibly as high as 8th All Time in GPG and APG and 9th in PPG
30-game average of 17G, 7A for 24P
3-year peak is too annoying to calculate
Playoffs: 4G for 4P in 8 games
Never traded.

Categories | Eligible Inducted Old Timer

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 Bill grew up on the south shore of Montreal, but was born on the left coast. He has been a die-hard Canucks fan since 1989 (except those two Messier years, which he spent living in a bunker fearing the sun).  Bill has long been an avid baseball, hockey and football fan, and probably should write a book about one of them. Joining the podcast with Riley is a chance for Bill to flex his vast knowledge of hockey history without becoming a pub quiz barfly. Bill has promised to remove his green and blue coloured glasses for the podcast, but can't make any promises. 

 

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