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Episode 17: Desjarins, Rob Blake and Her Gardiner

07-11-2018

Desjardins:
1988-2006; 17 seasons, 16 quality
136G, 439A for 575P in 1143 games, +198; 114.5 PS; 24:34 ATOI (since 1998-99)
Desjardins is 22nd All time in Defensive Point Shares
Draft: In his draft class (1987), Desjardins, drafted 38th overall, is
11th in Goals
7th in Assists and Games Played
9th in Points
2nd in Plus/Minus
Era: Of the 19 defensemen to play in at least 1000 games between 1988 and 2006, Desjardins is
6th in Goals and GPG
8th in Assists
9th in APG and Points
7th in PPG, Offensive Point Shares and Point Shares (everyone above him on the PS list is in the Hall of Fame)
5th in Plus/Minus
4th in Defensive Point Shares
82-game average: 10G, 31A for 41P, +14; 8.2 PS
3-year peak (1998-2001): 82-game average of 16G, 40A for 56P, +13; 26:27 ATOI; 10.9 PS
No possession stats
Playoffs: 23G, 57A for 80P, +16 in 168 games; 26:46 ATOI (since 1998-99)
Adjusted: 142G, 458A for 600P
Adjusted 82-game average: 10G, 33A for 43P
Obviously Desjardins is not on any adjusted per game leaderboards
Traded once in his prime with John LeClair and Gilbert Dionne for a Mark Recchi and a 3rd round pick.
Blake:
NHL: 1989-2010; 20 seasons, 14 quality (by DPS)
240G (10th D All Time), 537A (22nd D) for 777P (18th), -4 in 1270 games; 24:54 ATOI (since 1998-99) 127.5 PS (21st D)
Blake is 13th All Time in GPG and 18th in PPG among defencemen
Blake is 11th All Time in Offensive Point Shares among defencemen
Draft: In his draft class (1988), Blake, drafted 70th overall is
11th in Goals
7th in Assists
9th in Points
41st (ish) in Plus/Minus
8th in Games Played
Era: Of the 9 defencemen to play in at least 1250 games between 1989 and 2010, Blake is
1st in Goals and GPG
4th in Assists and PS
3rd in APG
2nd in Points, PPG and OPS
8th (2nd last) in Plus/Minus and DPS
82-game average: 16G, 34A for 50P, 0
3-year peak (1999-02): 82-game average of 20G, 45P, 65P, +11; 27:57 ATOI
Possession (since 2007-08):
48.6% Corsi For
-5% Relative Corsi For
48.9% Fenwick For
-4.5% Relative Fenwick For
Playoffs: 26G, 47A for 73P, 0 in 146 games
Adjusted: 255G, 551A for 807P
Adjusted 82-game average: 16G, 136A for 52P
Adjusted PPG: If the qualifier is set to 1,250 games played, Blake is not in the Top 25 in Adjusted PPG (obviously)
Traded once in his prime.
Gardiner:
NHL: 1926-29; 3 seasons, all quality (by DPS)
10G, 10A for 20P in 100 games
82-game average: 8G, 8A for 16P
3-year peak would be the same as that’s all he played
Playoffs: 1A for 1P in 9 games
Adjusted: 18G, 57A for 75P
Adjusted 82-game average: 15G, 47A for 62 (probably absurd)
Traded into the NHL, loaned to another team for 4 games, traded at the end of his career and then traded out of the NHL.
WCHL:
1921-26; 5 seasons, 3 quality
33G (as high as 18th All Time), 18A (as high as 15th All Time) for 51P (as high as 17th All Time) in 130 games (as high as 4th All Time)
It’s unlikely but Gardiner might be as high as 13th All Time in APG and 14th in PPG, if the qualifier is set to 82 games
30-game average: 8G, 4A for 12P
Playoffs: 3G, 1A for 4P in 11 games
Never traded.

Categories | Eligible Inducted Old Timer

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 Bill grew up on the south shore of Montreal, but was born on the left coast. He has been a die-hard Canucks fan since 1989 (except those two Messier years, which he spent living in a bunker fearing the sun).  Bill has long been an avid baseball, hockey and football fan, and probably should write a book about one of them. Joining the podcast with Riley is a chance for Bill to flex his vast knowledge of hockey history without becoming a pub quiz barfly. Bill has promised to remove his green and blue coloured glasses for the podcast, but can't make any promises. 

 

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