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Episode 18: Doan, Shanahan and Punch Broadbent

20-11-2018

Doan:
NHL: 1995-2017; 21 seasons, 15 quality
402G, 570A for 972P, -54 in 1540 games (15th All Time); 18:38 ATOI (since 1998-99); 96.3 PS
If the qualifier is set to 1500 games played (since 1967-68), Doan is last All Time in Plus/Minus; if the qualifier is lowered to 1250 games, he is tied for 6th last
Draft: In his draft class (1995), Doan, drafted 7th overall is
2nd in Goals, Assists, Points and Games Played
Era: Only two players played in 1500 games between 1995 and 2011 so, of the 14 players to play in at least 1250 games between 1995 and 2017, Doan is:
6th in Goals
8th in GPG
9th in Assists, APG, PPG and OPS
7th in Points
14th (last) in Plus/Minus
10th in PS
82-game average: 21G, 30A for 52P, -3
3-year peak (2006-09): 82-game average of 30G, 42A for 72P, -2
Possession (since 2007-08):
50.4% Corsi For
2.1% Relative Corsi For
49.9% Fenwick For
2% Relative Fenwick For
Playoffs: 15G, 13A for 28P, -3 in 55 games
Adjusted: 455G, 622A for 1077P
Adjusted 82-game average: 24G, 33A for 57P
Doan is not in the Top 25 in an Adjusted PG category, obviously
Never traded.
Shanahan:
NHL: 1987-2009; 21 seasons, 19 quality
656G (13th All Time), 698A for 1354P (20th Canadian All Time), +151 in 1524 games; 18:08 ATOI (since 1998-99); 148 PS (20th Canadian)
Shanahan is 19th All Time in Offensive Point Shares
Draft: In his draft class (1987), Shanahan, drafted 2nd overall, is
1st in Goals and Games Played
3rd in Assists and Plus/Minus
2nd in Points
Era: Shanahan is the only player to play in at least 1,500 games between 1987 and 2009, so...Of the 25 players to play in at least 1,250 games between 1987 and 2009, Shanahan is
2nd in Goals
5th in GPG, Points, Offensive Point Shares and Point Shares
12th in Assists and PPG
14th in APG
6th in Plus/Minus
82-game average: 35G, 38A for 73P, +8
3-year peak (1992-95): 82-game average of 49G, 46A for 95P, +3
Possession (since 2007-08):
50.4% Corsi For
-6.9% Relative Corsi For
51.8% Fenwick For
-6.6% Relative Fenwick For
Playoffs: 60G, 74A for 134P, +34 in 184 games
Adjusted: 672G (8th All Time), 704A for 1376P (24th All Time)
Adjusted 82-game average: 36G, 39A for 74P
Not in the Top 25 in Adjusted PG
Broadbent:
NHL: 1918-29; 11 seasons, 7 quality
121G (9th All Time at his retirement), 51A (8th) for 172P (9th) in 303 Games (5th - Broadbent co-held the NHL career Games Played record multiple times during his career); 25.3 PS (23rd)
Era: Of the 5 players to play at least 300 games between 1918 and 1929, Broadbent is
4th All Time in GPG,
5th in APG
4th in PPG
82-game average: 33G, 14A for 47P
3-year peak (1919-22): 24-game average of 21G, 8A for 29P
Playoffs: 4G, 6A for 10P in 23 games
Adjusted: 188G, 273A for 461P
Adjusted 82-game average: 51G, 74A for 125P
Broadbent doesn’t meet the requirements for the per game boards but if the requirement is set to 300 games, Broadbent is 17th All Time in Adjusted PPG
Trades:
Traded three times, twice for cash and once with cash for Hooley Smith
Transferred multiple times in the same season because he refused to play for Hamilton and Montreal.
NHA:
1912-15; 3 seasons, all quality
50G (19th All Time, at best), 10A (possibly 20th All Time) for 60P (19th All Time at best) in 57 games (as high as 18th All Time, but not likely)
If the qualifier is set to 40 games (2 seasons), Broadbent is probably 14th All Time in GPG and PPG
20-game average: 18G, 4A for 21P
Playoffs: 3G for 3P in 5 games
Left the NHA for WWI.

Categories | Eligible Inducted Old Timer

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