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Episode 19: Suter, Chelios and Bullet Simpson

07-01-2019

Suter:
1985-2002; 17 seasons, 15 quality
203G (20th D All Time), 641A (14th D, 4th American D) for 844P (14th D, 4th American D), +126 in 1145 games; 21:37 ATOI (since 1998-99); 121.6 PS (23rd D All Time, 5th American D)
Suter is 15th All Time in Offensive Point Shares among D (4th American D)
Era: Of the 25 D to play in at least 1,000 games between 1985 and 2002, Suter is
9th in Goals
8th in Assists
7th in Points, Plus/Minus, Offensive Point Shares
11th in Defensive Point Shares
9th in Point Shares
Draft: In his draft class (1984), Suter, drafted 180th overall, is
13th in Goals
4th in Assists
7th in Points
4th in Plus/Minus
9th in Games
82-game average: 15G, 46A for 61P, +9; 8.7 PS
3-year Peak (1987-90): 82-game average of 19G, 68A for 87P, +26; 11.2 PS
No possession stats
Playoffs: 17G, 56A for 73P, -4 in 108 games; 17:45 ATOI (since 1998-99)
Adjusted: 194G, 601A for 795P
Adjusted 82-game average: 14G, 43A for 57P
Trades:
March 10, 1994: Traded to Hartford by Calgary with Paul Ranheim and Ted Drury for James Patrick, Zarley Zalapski and Michael Nylander.
March 11, 1994: Traded to Chicago by Hartford with Randy Cunneyworth and Hartford's 3rd round choice (later traded to Vancouver - Vancouver selected Larry Courville) in 1995 Entry Draft for Frantisek Kucera and Jocelyn Lemieux. (Oof)
June 27, 1998: Traded to San Jose by Chicago for San Jose's 9th round choice (Andrei Yershov) in 1998 Entry Draft.
Chelios:
NHL: 1983-2010; 26 seasons, 22 quality (by DPS)
185G (25th D All Time), 763A (8th D All Time, 4th American skater) for 948P (10th D All Time), +351 (19th All Time, 12th D, 2nd American) in 1651 games (6th All Time); 21:35 ATOI (since 1998-99); 168.5 PS (20th All Time, 9th D, 2nd American)
Chelios is 5th All Time in Defensive Point Shares (1st American)
Among defencemen, Chelios is 17th All Time in Offensive Point Shares
Draft: In his draft year (1981), Chelios, drafted 40th overall, is
8th in Goals
4th in Assists and Points
2nd in Plus/Minus and Games Played
Era: Of the 7 players to play in at least 1500 games between 1983 and 2010, Chelios is
7th (last) in Goals and GPG
4th in Assists and APG
6th (2nd last) in Points, PPG and Offensive Point Shares
2nd in Plus/Minus and Defensive Point Shares
1st in Point Shares
82-game average: 9G, 38A for 47P, +17
3-year peak (1988-91): 82-game average of 14G, 50A for 63P, +30; 10.8 PS [Note: Chelios’ best years by PS are far apart so it was very hard to pick a 3 year window which was his best]
No possession stats
Playoffs: 31G, 113A (17th All Time) for 144P, +48 (17th) in 266 games (1st)
Adjusted: 170G, 738A for 908P
Adjusted 82-game average: 8G, 37A for 45P
Chelios is obviously not in the Top 25 of any Adjusted Per Game leaderboard
Traded once in his prime and once after most player’s conventional primes:
Traded with a pick for a franchise centre (Savard)
Traded at the deadline for a younger player and picks.
Simpson:
NHL: 1925-31; 6 seasons, 5 quality by DPS
21G, 19A for 40P in 228 games; 20.7 PS
Era: Of the 15 defensemen over 30 to play in at least 82 games between 1925 and 1931, Simpson is
5th in Goals
9th in GPG, APG and PPG
4th in Assists, Points and Point Shares
7th in Offensive Point Shares
3rd in Defensive Point Shares
82-game average: 7G, 7A for 15P
3-year peak (1928-31): 44-game average of 4G, 5A for 10P, 4.8 PS
Playoffs: 0P in 2 games
Adjusted: 39G, 83A for 122P
Adjusted 82-game average: 14G, 30A for 44P
Traded into the NHL.

Categories | Eligible Inducted Old Timer

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