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Episode 22: Janney, Oates, Noble

20-02-2019

Janney:
NHL: 1987-99; 12 seasons, 10 quality
188G, 563A for 751P, -13 in 760 games; 14:16 ATOI (final season); 58.4 PS
Janney is 14th All Time in APG (1st American by .09 APG)
Draft: In his draft class (1986), Janney, drafted 13th overall, is
9th in Goals
2nd in Assists
4th in Points
But 11th in Games Played
Era: Of the 112 skaters to play in at least 750 games between 1986 and 1999, Janney is
58th in Goals
52nd in GPG
17th in Assists
10th in APG
32nd in Points
18th in PPG
81st in Plus/Minus
43rd in Offensive Point Shares
59th in Point Shares
82-game average: 21G, 61A for 81P, -1
3-year peak (1991-94): 82-game average of 21G, 78A for 98P, -4
No possession stats
Playoffs: 24G, 86A for 110P, -12 in 120 games
Adjusted: 174G, 531A for 705P
Adjusted 82-game Average: 19G, 57A for 76P
Janney is 24th All Time in Adjusted APG
Traded four times in his prime and awarded as compensation once in his prime, traded twice after his prime.
Oates:
NHL: 1985-2004; 19 seasons, 17 quality
341G, 1079A (7th All Time) for 1420P (18th All Time), +33 in 1337 games; 20:05 ATOI (since 1998-99); 117 PS
Oates is 7th All Time in APG
Oates was undrafted so: Of the 23 undrafted skaters to play in at least 1000 games since expansion (1967-68), Oates is
11th in Goals
12th in GPG
2nd in Assists, APG, and Points
4th in PPG
14th in Plus/Minus
3rd in Offensive Point Shares and Point Shares
Era: Of the 18 skaters to play in at least 1,250 games between 1985 and 2004, Oates is
11th in Goals, Plus/Minus and Point Shares
13th in GPG
1st in Assists and APG
4th in Points and PPG
8th in Offensive Point Shares
82-game average: 21G, 66A for 87P, +2
3-year peak (1990-93): 82-game average of 33G, 99A for 132P, +8
No possession stats
Playoffs:
42G, 114A (16th All Time) for 146P, -12 in 163 games
Oates is 16th All Time in Playoff APG
Adjusted: 331G, 1065A (7th All Time) for 1396P (20th All Time)
Adjusted 82-game Average: 20G, 65A for 86P
Oates is 10th All Time in Adjusted APG
Traded three times in his prime and once after
Noble:
NHL: 1917-33; 16 seasons, 8 quality as a forward and probably at least 4 as a defenceman (i.e. 12 total)
168G (7th All Time at his retirement), 106A (6th) for 274P (6th) in 510 games (1st - Noble was well first by well over a season’s worth of games when he retired); 35.2 PS (23rd)
Noble briefly held the career record for assists twice, in 1924-25 and again in 1929-30
At his retirement, Noble was 15th All Time in GPG, 17th in APG (1st All Time after the first NHL season) and 14th in PPG (minimum 300 games, as Noble didn’t score enough to make the Hockey Reference per game leader boards).
82-game average: 27G, 17A for 44P
3-year peak (1917-20): 24-game average of 25G, 9A for 34P
Playoffs: 2G, 2A for 4P in 18 games
Adjusted: 255G, 459A for 804P
Adjusted 82-game average: 41G, 74A for 129P
If the qualifier is set to 300 games, Noble is 14th All Time in Adjusted PPG
Traded once in his prime, twice after.

Categories | Eligible Inducted Old Timer

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 Bill grew up on the south shore of Montreal, but was born on the left coast. He has been a die-hard Canucks fan since 1989 (except those two Messier years, which he spent living in a bunker fearing the sun).  Bill has long been an avid baseball, hockey and football fan, and probably should write a book about one of them. Joining the podcast with Riley is a chance for Bill to flex his vast knowledge of hockey history without becoming a pub quiz barfly. Bill has promised to remove his green and blue coloured glasses for the podcast, but can't make any promises. 

 

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